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[12:49] <wad67> How does one use multiplayer without forwarding ports? I have attempted hamachi but that does not work.
[12:49] <wad67> Related topic: https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=21244
[12:49] <TrangarBot> Steam multiplayer? http://https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=21244
[12:50] <wad67> Link is broken.
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[12:51] <Carnivean> hm bobs gets rather tedious around the blue science mark
[12:52] <faraway> Am I right that I need to research "Logistic system" or "character logistic" to get bots usefull, and that I cant to anything only having having passive provider chest, storage chest, logistic robot and port.
[12:53] <Carnivean> yeah, logistic system is another useful one as it allows you get the requestor chests
[12:53] <wad67> Could the devs please remove the multiplayer tags from their steam page? That is a falsehood.
[12:53] <_aD> Could have fooled me, and many thousands of others
[12:54] <Keyboardhack> multiplayer works
[12:54] <wad67> Case in point, my friend purchased it. Can't play multiplayer, can't get his money back. False advertising.
[12:54] <_aD> Case in point is that you can't multiplay.
[12:54] <Keyboardhack> Just not for everyone. It's early access
[12:54] <wad67> They should at least put up a warning saying it's a broken p2p system.
[12:54] <_aD> Jesus christ this channel is full of people who have no idea of reasoning or logic
[12:55] <Keyboardhack> Oh and btw multiplayer is only supported on the same network, not over the internet
[12:55] <wad67> I wouldn't call that multiplayer.
[12:55] <wad67> That's LAN
[12:55] <_aD> Fix your shit and it'll work. Don't come here and cry to a channel full of people who multiplay quite happily.
[12:55] <_aD> It makes you look stupid.
[12:55] <wad67> I know what the problem is.
[12:55] <_aD> Me too.
[12:55] <wad67> I'm not fixing it.
[12:55] <wad67> Shouldn't have to. This is 2016.
[12:55] <wad67> Not the 90's
[12:55] <Nitrate_> Aren't the tag added by users, originally? It may not be false advertising at all...
[12:56] <Keyboardhack> "early access"
[12:56] <_aD> Quite. Why are you running a network with NAT in 2016?
[12:56] <wad67> I'm not going to solicit you with a response from this point.
[12:56] <_aD> o/
[12:56] <Rockyfelle> Multiplayer only works on lan? What?
[12:57] <Keyboardhack> afaik it's only supported on lan but work over the internet for many
[12:57] <Nitrate_> It doesn't. I already played multiplayer with other people across the internet
[12:57] <Rockyfelle> Exactly
[12:58] <Rockyfelle> Me and my friend plays fine over the blogosphere
[12:58] <wad67> If it's not supported for net use. Don't call it multiplayer. Does not matter if it works. It's unsupported.
[12:58] <Nitrate_> Also, why would "Multiplayer" be a false advertising if it works easily on LAN?
[12:58] <faraway> I play it right now in multiplayer via internet. And I’m glad that it does not relay on a central server.
[12:58] <Rockyfelle> wad67: factorio doesn't run on my machine from 1950, pls don't call it a frame
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[12:58] <Keyboardhack> multi-player is multiple players playing together, not multiple players playing over the internet...
[12:58] <Rockyfelle> Also the visuals don't work on my pc without a screen
[12:58] <Lily_White> Multi-Player
[12:58] <Lily_White> Multiple Players
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[12:59] <Lily_White> regardless of method
[12:59] <Lily_White> whether it be local or internet
[12:59] <Keyboardhack> ^
[12:59] <FusionX-> Wait what multiplayer is for LAN? Wot..
[12:59] <Lily_White> one coudl even argue that that 2 player 1 controller super metroid run at AGDQ was multiplayer
[12:59] <Keyboardhack> https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=21244#p133459
[12:59] <TrangarBot> Steam multiplayer? http://https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=21244
[12:59] <Keyboardhack> lol
[12:59] <Lily_White> it's "multiple players" playing together
[13:00] <wad67> You people are a disgrace. I'm going to go and jump off a bridge. I hope you are happy.
[13:00] <_aD> I'm so glad I can fire my customers
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